>> you know, go back and remember what president clinton said. you know what is interesting? every word he said was true. >> yeah. >> he said we can balance the budget without doing all those things. and guess what happened? we did balance the budget. we didn't destroy medicare. we didn't destroy education. we were able to do that. and they didn't want to do that. and president clinton stood up, just like today. they're sitting there saying who needs government. they're excited about shutting this stuff down. you watch them on tv. they think this is good. they think that this gets in the way. they're going to find out just what it is. and they're going to find out in a defense department what this is like. and a lot of places like that. you got to understand. their whole philosophy is government is a bad thing. and so if you have less of a bad thing, you're better off. >> you think the president is going to get any help from the republican governors that know how bad it's going to be in their backyard? >> i think the phone is going to start ringing. not only that, i think the